Nokkers: We just want to help freeing the souls trapped inside their mortal coils.

Awww. That's cute.

Cool motive, still murder

XD That a broklyn nine-nine reference?

Yes. A thousand times yes! xD

I'm just happy that bon is alive I mean he's dead but he's alive and now he gets to be with his childhood crush that turned out to be iris the chubby girl pretending to be a guy and is now thin and hot that can sew stuff also her dad is a tailor

I know, but I'm SO wary about just how long he'll STAY alive 😭

Yeah Iris saying him that she'll wait at the castle for as many years as it takes is a big death flag I see.

ngl i literally just started rewatchin it XD

For a second there I thought kahaku was gonna kill that nokkers in his arm then that means the other nokkers kinda knows where fushi is that nokker is called fye

Finally someone from the Hayase family making a sensible decision... Although still slightly psycho.

"Just a little genocide.. Please?"

Genocide? It's mass extinction bro.

It's like fushi and the black is life and the nokkers are death

nope...they know how humans end up once we get the internet, they're just trying to prevent it from happening

if you think about it the internet has caused alot of deaths too.

Nokkers just want to end their suffering

so please just die for us

Gonna help the Nokkers.

It might be because they want to be seen by people who are alive.

I think it's more that they see suffering as a negative, and without being trapped in flesh, there is no suffering. They have no understanding beyond that.

Negative utilitarianism is a form of negative consequentialism that can be described as the view that people should minimize the total amount of aggregate suffering, or that they should minimize suffering and then, secondarily, maximize the total amount of happiness.

It can be considered as a version of utilitarianism that gives greater priority to reducing suffering (negative utility or 'disutility') than to increasing pleasure (positive utility). This differs from classical utilitarianism, which does not claim that reducing suffering is intrinsically more important than increasing happiness

I mean death is also pretty painful imo

Plus later you find out the knockers actually like having bodily experiences, making them all hypocrites

Idunno, bro... Have you ever died?

They're essentially the medusas of to your eternity

Right. And also, humans can alter the world as they wish. In which case, nokkers can't do anything but watch unless becoming the monster.

For real like, I just thought they like to kill people without reason. As it turns out, they want to "save" the people, by killing them. That makes ALL the difference! I dunno about you guys, but I'm rooting for Nokkers now. (pun intended)

Sounds like the AI revolution. To save humanity we need to kill they all.

That makes the Nokkers yet another religious-organisation ! It's almost like those who believe that, through their killing of sinners/infidels/non-believers, that they are being merciful to these sinners/infidels/non-believers, due to believing that if they did not kill the sinners/infidels/non-believers, that the sinners/infidels/non-believers would continue being sinners/infidels/non-believers and suffering eternally as a result, rather than doing the merciful thing which is to kill them so that they do not continue to be on-going sinners/infidels/non-believers (yeah, very twisted logic & reasoning, but, that is true of any sort of cult-system or cult-organisation or cult-which-ever)...

I think it's less about religion, and more about them seeing suffering as a negative. They have no concept of human morals, they just see flesh as a cage of suffering. And since the soul persists after the cage is gone, they don't see "death" as a negative.

Your pun explains why the ending song is called Roots.

Would you describe yourself as a negative utilitarian who prioritizes reducing suffering first and foremost before even considering happiness?

Also, What about the people who do not want to be "saved" from their bodies?

A preference utilitarian position (values actions that fulfill the most personal interests as every person's experience of satisfaction is unique) may only do so if they desire it while a classical utilitarian would prioritize maximizing happiness and well-being so likely wouldn't.

The nokkers are the exact opposite of fushi

I feel like these nokkers are under the impression that they're "necessary evil" and it has imprinted on them ages ago

I don't think the Nokkers care about morals or good and evil.

I don't think they see themselves as evil at all lol.

that's why I said 'necessary evil' and 'imprinted' ages ago. Due to acquiring a consensual host. also, kind of like they have a negative utilitarian motives leading to negative consequences, likewise

That's just murder with extra steps

They do have a point!

Extremely manipulative monsters for that goal. It'll only get worse on their way of doing it.

Its the eternal dilemma over the question if physical life is actually worth living if it means to suffer constantly. It gets picked up by Japanese media quite often actually like in FF: Endwalker and even NGE. Its a Gnostic believe as well as essential to Buddhism and Hinduism that we are trapped in the physical and have to break out of the wheel of reincarnation to truly be free. Its certainly an interesting topic to ponder about and doesn't have an easy conclusion.

If she's willing to sneak in by climbing walls, change her appearance, become a chair, and charge into poo. She's a definite keeper T^T

I was literally shooting "FÜCKING MARRY HER BON! ARE YOU BLIND? "
But i guess in the end he did accept her advances (but for frick sake, not even a fùcking kiss on the cheek)

Bon: Wait, your father was fired after you were talking to me? That means that you making yourself look like a boy was a deliberate choice to get closer to me without anyone knowing?

Iris: No I just really like cakes

That metabolism, usually if you go on hard diet, you get flabby skin.She amazingly stretched it out!

Honestly, this development on how Bon still lives was something I guessed. Since most stuff pointed there. Especially because of how last episode ended and how the series would go if Bon died there. And Todo being that girl... uhh... I am surprised people are actually surprised about that.

It was about as subtle as a sledgehammer to a brick.

Honestly, most pointed to that. It was obvious for me. Welp, each person would view it differently. And it doesn't matter.

sure there were hints to that. However, if he had truly died, I bet you would have said the same thing that you guessed it as that is how it always played out so far with the people he met before. If he had died and fushi had gotten his powers by turning into him and seeing his ghost, then reviving him instead of what happened here, you would have said that was totally predictable.

No. I wouldn't have. I actually did think what I said.

Todo was pretty obvious